Both the 40-year-old QB and the New York Jets offense are broken. It's not going to get much better. Also inside: Coaching malpractice in Buffalo and Cincinnati. No. 1 & No. 2 picks shine.
Hey gang! Will get to the comments here on our other stories here tonight --- including the president of the Jordan Love Fan Club, Rocket Roj. Overdue to take these kiddos for a walk 'round the neighborhood.
A quick update. Thanks to a reader for catching the typo on my Josh Allen stat...
Josh Allen’s nine completions on 30 attempts are the ** lowest ** number on that many throws in any game since 1992.
From this view, the problem isn't that the Bills threw three straight passes. It's that they threw three straight very low-percentage passes. Even if you're trying to be aggressive-which is what everyone wants Allen to be doing-something short and safe to start the drive would've been preferred, and even then they could've thrown towards the sideline to get out of bounds right away if you get a first down. So many more options were available than just run up the middle into a pile or throw the bomb.
As a Packers fan, that Jets game was very familiar. Completely abandoned the running game despite struggling to pass protect, passive aggressive gestures towards the play caller, holding onto the ball despite not having the ability to extend plays with his legs, running the play clock down to zero every play thinking he can audible into the perfect play.
At least at the end of his Packers tenure he had LaFleur who managed incorporate some motion and creativity despite Rodgers fighting him every step of the way. Now he just has Hackett running the stuff Rodgers is comfy with despite it not having Jordy, Adams, and Cobb all in their primes trotting out there.
Hopefully his weekly Tuesday ego boast on Pat McAfee will have him feeling more optimistic.
Who would have ever guessed that skipping minicamps and not developing chemistry or timing with your receivers would result in bad things when the games count?
It's never his fault, always someone else's problem. Love isn't as good of a player, but is so much easier to root for as a person.
"• Game management overreaction: The Bills lost in regulation despite taking over possession with 32 seconds remaining in a game tied 20-20. It seemed calamitous.
It was certainly painful. But it wasn’t felonious.
Houston holding all three timeouts when Buffalo took over possession was the key variable exonerating McDermott.
Yes, the Bills had quarterback Josh Allen throw deep on all three plays from Buffalo’s 2-yard line before punting, at which point Houston took over at the plus-46 with seven seconds left. Texans quarterback C.J. Stroud completed a 5-yard pass, Houston called timeout and kicker Ka’imi Fairbairn made the winning 59-yard field goal.
Crushing for Buffalo. But if the Bills had run the ball three times instead of passing, we could estimate six seconds coming off the clock for each running play, with Houston calling a timeout to stop the clock after each one. Take away another seven seconds for a punt and Houston would emerge with the same seven seconds the Texans wound up with anyway.
The Texans would have exhausted all three timeouts in the process, so they would have needed to complete a pass to the sideline instead of toward the middle of the field in setting up the winning kick. Teams do that all the time.
Allen’s first pass, thrown 16 yards past the line of scrimmage, produced contact between the receiver and defensive back, resulting in a flag for offensive pass interference. Sometimes those go the other way. The second pass, thrown 42 yards downfield, had an outside shot at connecting. On third-and-10, Curtis Samuel was wide open over the middle 18 yards downfield and Allen saw him, but pressure forced the throw to come up short.
“If McDermott didn’t have a Tier 1 QB, he would have done an alternative approach,” a coach from another team said.
That last quote from a "coach from another team" gets to the reality.
You expect your superstar, elite, MVP worthy QB to make some plays. Josh didn't.
Instead he suffered a historically terrible performance.
9 of 30?!?!?!
The 30% completion rate was a career low for the star QB and the lowest percentage in a game with at least 30 attempts in the past 30 seasons.
37% of his pathetic 131 yards were on ONE play that was ALL Keon Coleman with his stellar 49 yard TD catch.
A GUTSY 4th down call from McD OPPOSITE that Tyler has brought up over and over....McD being too conservative.
The last few plays of the game were bad because they did not work. Not necessarily because they were (as Mr Sando observes) "felonious".
Not sure where I’ve noted to throw the ball in every situation ever.
Definitely need to unleash their quarterback. But that quarterback was also 9 of 30 this game. Not quite the performance we saw prior to those fateful 13 seconds.
I did not say that you said they should “throw the ball in every situation ever". Mine was an observation that you have made in the past and today that McD got “tight”, which has meant in the past ’too conservative”.
The end game decisions to pass was not “conservative”, but quite the opposite. It was not “tight” but loose. Maybe TOO loose.
Ponder the reaction if the Bills DID run three times, what Houston was looking for, and stop the run, call time out. It could have easily been the case that the Bills would still punt, but instead of 7 sec on the clock, You could have had 10, 11 or 12.
One quick (or maybe even time for two) passes to the sideline and instead of a 59 Gerard try, it’s 50 or 45.
Can you honesty say that in that credible scenario you might be saying…’McD got “tight” and “too conservative” instead of putting the ball in your best players hands with a chance (however slight) to do something special.
We’ll never know.
As it was, the first pass could have easily (I think should have been) called a DPI instead of OPI.
The real squandering of opportunities came earlier when the defense held Houston to 3 points in the second half (until the fateful long FG) and even gave the Bills the ball TWICE on turnovers in the last 8 minutes of the game.
The second TO was partially wasted getting the ball on Houston 15 yard line and only get 3 points??
In any event, this is what makes NFL football so entertaining. An inch here, a missed catch by the fingertips there, one questionable ref call, the weird bounce of the ball.
Another question would be why didn’t McDermott/Brady/Allen target their primary short yardage tight end Dalton Kincaid for a must-have first down? I know he had a couple drops but this is exactly a situation he’s been hired for.
I did notice one time in Denver the cameras zoomed in on Hackett’s play sheet. Turns out the front of it is just a page out of a Paw Patrol coloring book.
Nicely done, as usual, TD. Love the nfl coverage across the league & the brutal honesty reporting requires in regard to the NYJ QB. I remember 2010 for Brett, that was the year, Fr. Time threw a haymaker at the ol' Gunslinger. See ing the same aged look in Rodgers legs this year. Getting beat like that at almost 41 has to be tough.
Also couldn't help but think in the game, even Brett Favre would've said that interception throw by Love was nuts. :) But Tyler's point is exactly right, the dude is just unflappable. When they showed him after that play, one could almost picture him thinking to himself "man, that was stupid..." and within five seconds moving on. Such a fantastic trait.
Tyler, Tyler, Tyler … what are going to do with you and your man crush on Jordan Love? Love’s career record is 14-18, throw in the playoffs and it “climbs” to 16-19. One of his TD passes yesterday was a 10-yard swing pass to the tight end, how housed a long way aided by two great stiff-arms. He’s overpaid and overhyped. I know McGinn picks the Pack to win the Super Bowl. To date in 2024, Green Bay’s three wins came against Tennessee, Indianapolis and the Rams. Combined record of those teams? 4-10. They lost to Minnesota and Philly with a combined record of 7-2. Curb Your Enthusiasm wasn’t just a terrific show, Tyler.
Ryan: Thank you for the Love W-L correction. Maybe we’ll all be alive when he finally reaches .500. Certainly he’s not worth the contract that Green Bay gave him, but it’s Gutenkunst’s ass, not mine.
Hey gang! Will get to the comments here on our other stories here tonight --- including the president of the Jordan Love Fan Club, Rocket Roj. Overdue to take these kiddos for a walk 'round the neighborhood.
A quick update. Thanks to a reader for catching the typo on my Josh Allen stat...
Josh Allen’s nine completions on 30 attempts are the ** lowest ** number on that many throws in any game since 1992.
From this view, the problem isn't that the Bills threw three straight passes. It's that they threw three straight very low-percentage passes. Even if you're trying to be aggressive-which is what everyone wants Allen to be doing-something short and safe to start the drive would've been preferred, and even then they could've thrown towards the sideline to get out of bounds right away if you get a first down. So many more options were available than just run up the middle into a pile or throw the bomb.
Astute distinction, Adam. Very good point. Maybe work off the expected run. Get the QB moving. High-percentage pass. I could get down with that.
As a Packers fan, that Jets game was very familiar. Completely abandoned the running game despite struggling to pass protect, passive aggressive gestures towards the play caller, holding onto the ball despite not having the ability to extend plays with his legs, running the play clock down to zero every play thinking he can audible into the perfect play.
At least at the end of his Packers tenure he had LaFleur who managed incorporate some motion and creativity despite Rodgers fighting him every step of the way. Now he just has Hackett running the stuff Rodgers is comfy with despite it not having Jordy, Adams, and Cobb all in their primes trotting out there.
Hopefully his weekly Tuesday ego boast on Pat McAfee will have him feeling more optimistic.
Who would have ever guessed that skipping minicamps and not developing chemistry or timing with your receivers would result in bad things when the games count?
It's never his fault, always someone else's problem. Love isn't as good of a player, but is so much easier to root for as a person.
Hmmmm....Tyler craps over McDermott because he did EXACTLY what he said he SHOULD do.
Let Josh Allen be Josh Allen.
I'll let Mike Sando explain the reality of the situation...
Bills ‘blunder’ wasn’t so bad, but they need help (Davante Adams?): Sando’s Pick Six
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5821304/2024/10/07/bills-sean-mcdermott-texans-josh-allen/?source=scoopcity_newsletter&campaign=11208064&userId=13460465
"• Game management overreaction: The Bills lost in regulation despite taking over possession with 32 seconds remaining in a game tied 20-20. It seemed calamitous.
It was certainly painful. But it wasn’t felonious.
Houston holding all three timeouts when Buffalo took over possession was the key variable exonerating McDermott.
Yes, the Bills had quarterback Josh Allen throw deep on all three plays from Buffalo’s 2-yard line before punting, at which point Houston took over at the plus-46 with seven seconds left. Texans quarterback C.J. Stroud completed a 5-yard pass, Houston called timeout and kicker Ka’imi Fairbairn made the winning 59-yard field goal.
Crushing for Buffalo. But if the Bills had run the ball three times instead of passing, we could estimate six seconds coming off the clock for each running play, with Houston calling a timeout to stop the clock after each one. Take away another seven seconds for a punt and Houston would emerge with the same seven seconds the Texans wound up with anyway.
The Texans would have exhausted all three timeouts in the process, so they would have needed to complete a pass to the sideline instead of toward the middle of the field in setting up the winning kick. Teams do that all the time.
Allen’s first pass, thrown 16 yards past the line of scrimmage, produced contact between the receiver and defensive back, resulting in a flag for offensive pass interference. Sometimes those go the other way. The second pass, thrown 42 yards downfield, had an outside shot at connecting. On third-and-10, Curtis Samuel was wide open over the middle 18 yards downfield and Allen saw him, but pressure forced the throw to come up short.
“If McDermott didn’t have a Tier 1 QB, he would have done an alternative approach,” a coach from another team said.
That last quote from a "coach from another team" gets to the reality.
You expect your superstar, elite, MVP worthy QB to make some plays. Josh didn't.
Instead he suffered a historically terrible performance.
9 of 30?!?!?!
The 30% completion rate was a career low for the star QB and the lowest percentage in a game with at least 30 attempts in the past 30 seasons.
37% of his pathetic 131 yards were on ONE play that was ALL Keon Coleman with his stellar 49 yard TD catch.
A GUTSY 4th down call from McD OPPOSITE that Tyler has brought up over and over....McD being too conservative.
The last few plays of the game were bad because they did not work. Not necessarily because they were (as Mr Sando observes) "felonious".
Good afternoon! I appreciate you reading, Dave.
Not sure where I’ve noted to throw the ball in every situation ever.
Definitely need to unleash their quarterback. But that quarterback was also 9 of 30 this game. Not quite the performance we saw prior to those fateful 13 seconds.
I appreciate you responding to my comment.
I did not say that you said they should “throw the ball in every situation ever". Mine was an observation that you have made in the past and today that McD got “tight”, which has meant in the past ’too conservative”.
The end game decisions to pass was not “conservative”, but quite the opposite. It was not “tight” but loose. Maybe TOO loose.
Ponder the reaction if the Bills DID run three times, what Houston was looking for, and stop the run, call time out. It could have easily been the case that the Bills would still punt, but instead of 7 sec on the clock, You could have had 10, 11 or 12.
One quick (or maybe even time for two) passes to the sideline and instead of a 59 Gerard try, it’s 50 or 45.
Can you honesty say that in that credible scenario you might be saying…’McD got “tight” and “too conservative” instead of putting the ball in your best players hands with a chance (however slight) to do something special.
We’ll never know.
As it was, the first pass could have easily (I think should have been) called a DPI instead of OPI.
The real squandering of opportunities came earlier when the defense held Houston to 3 points in the second half (until the fateful long FG) and even gave the Bills the ball TWICE on turnovers in the last 8 minutes of the game.
The second TO was partially wasted getting the ball on Houston 15 yard line and only get 3 points??
In any event, this is what makes NFL football so entertaining. An inch here, a missed catch by the fingertips there, one questionable ref call, the weird bounce of the ball.
That’s what we love Monday Morning QB’ing.
Keep up the good work Tyler.
Another question would be why didn’t McDermott/Brady/Allen target their primary short yardage tight end Dalton Kincaid for a must-have first down? I know he had a couple drops but this is exactly a situation he’s been hired for.
I did notice one time in Denver the cameras zoomed in on Hackett’s play sheet. Turns out the front of it is just a page out of a Paw Patrol coloring book.
Nicely done, as usual, TD. Love the nfl coverage across the league & the brutal honesty reporting requires in regard to the NYJ QB. I remember 2010 for Brett, that was the year, Fr. Time threw a haymaker at the ol' Gunslinger. See ing the same aged look in Rodgers legs this year. Getting beat like that at almost 41 has to be tough.
Also couldn't help but think in the game, even Brett Favre would've said that interception throw by Love was nuts. :) But Tyler's point is exactly right, the dude is just unflappable. When they showed him after that play, one could almost picture him thinking to himself "man, that was stupid..." and within five seconds moving on. Such a fantastic trait.
Aaron "And 1 mixtape" Rodgers 🤣
Head coach fired - guess that says a lot about who has the power for now.
Jets are where head coaches go to get fired. Jets and Carolina, two places to avoid as a coach or player.
Tyler, Tyler, Tyler … what are going to do with you and your man crush on Jordan Love? Love’s career record is 14-18, throw in the playoffs and it “climbs” to 16-19. One of his TD passes yesterday was a 10-yard swing pass to the tight end, how housed a long way aided by two great stiff-arms. He’s overpaid and overhyped. I know McGinn picks the Pack to win the Super Bowl. To date in 2024, Green Bay’s three wins came against Tennessee, Indianapolis and the Rams. Combined record of those teams? 4-10. They lost to Minnesota and Philly with a combined record of 7-2. Curb Your Enthusiasm wasn’t just a terrific show, Tyler.
Show us where Jordan Love hurt you.
Your one stat (QB win loss 🤣) isn't even accurate. He's 10-11 in the regular season and 1-1 in the playoffs.
Overall maybe don't rush to judgement on October 7th. Lot of season left.
Ryan: Thank you for the Love W-L correction. Maybe we’ll all be alive when he finally reaches .500. Certainly he’s not worth the contract that Green Bay gave him, but it’s Gutenkunst’s ass, not mine.
Assuming you were alive last year, he already reached .500 in your lifetime and dipped below starting this year 0-2.